tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8341686541622227200.post6282439186560324855..comments2024-02-08T12:10:38.282+00:00Comments on Life of a Lab Rat: Evolving Molecular Machines: The Plant EditionLab Rathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07962574174521597312noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8341686541622227200.post-67014135318831392952010-03-02T07:34:03.156+00:002010-03-02T07:34:03.156+00:00@lucas - I think probably all higher land plants m...@lucas - I think probably all higher land plants might have TOC64, but it wouldn't surprise me if some protists didn't...might have to check with Psi!<br /><br />@Psi: GAH I never thought of that! I'm just used to calling everything that was floating around in the biosphere at the dawn of time 'proto-bacteria'. And of course forgot that the things swallowing the future-mitochondrian would already be well on the way to eukaryote by then. Although you have to admit, given that, calling them bacteria would have been even *worse*.<br /><br />I tend to call anything that was around before things were properly evolved into todays labels 'proto-something'. Just because the often-used phrase "three billion years ago, bacteria..." irritates me so much.<br /><br />And welcome back Psi!Lab Rathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07962574174521597312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8341686541622227200.post-14690310100378522422010-03-02T07:12:37.920+00:002010-03-02T07:12:37.920+00:00@Lab Rat:
Really cool that we stumbled upon the sa...@Lab Rat:<br />Really cool that we stumbled upon the same topic. It was bound to happen sometime I guess ;).<br />Just a quick question: does the redundancy of TOC64 also mean that it is a later addition to the chloroplast import machinery, meaning that some in the plant family have it, and some don't?<br /><br />@Psi: <br />Well, there goes my brownie-point ;).<br />In the defense of that piece, I didn't say a <i>proto-bacterium</i> acquired the endosymbiont (just that they were alive and kicking before this event happened). Knowing myself though, it's an entirely plausible error for me to make, so thanks for the warning and explanation :).Lucas Brouwershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192035237302508309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8341686541622227200.post-49583555230866192472010-03-01T19:06:12.576+00:002010-03-01T19:06:12.576+00:00Ahhhh... no, not proto-bacteria... proto-Eukaryote...Ahhhh... no, not proto-bacteria... proto-Eukaryote, or Neomuran or whatever you want, but NOT "proto-bacteria"!!!<br /><br />Eukaryotes are NOT ancient!<br /><br />Bacteria can't 'swallow' anything. That's a [proto]-Eukaryote ability. <br /><br />Ok, I'll shut up and keep reading now... damn I missed out on so much during my 2 week hiatus!Psi Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10829712736757471647noreply@blogger.com